johns college inside of new mexico and my question is quite broad. i'm interested in the arab spring, the middle east seems or in fact is in some sense more united than it was before and should we, the united states, and the rest of the world, should be regarded as being more united or are there more differences after what we have seen happen during the arab spring? if you could also be -- specifically talk about where these differences are? thank you. >> george pace with world affairs in stanford. steven hadley referenced ambassador. he spoke a while in new new new york, a while ago in new york and made a couple of major points one of which was the need for the growth of the spirit of pluralism and politics across the region in the middle east. when he was asked with the seeds of that growth are the conditions might foster that growth might be, he essentially reiterated his other point which is that americans shouldn't think they have much to do with creating or fostering it so granted that second , i would ask this panel, are there seeds of growth